Anti-Racism Advocate Sophie Williams - Privilege, antiracism and control

Who Hurt You?

Sofie Hagen

Depth, Conversation, Comedy Interviews, Interview, Activism, Female, Comedy, Fat, Mental Health, Chat, Health & Fitness, Self-help, Feminism, Society & Culture

4.8 • 1.3K Ratings

🗓️ 21 July 2021

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Sofie talks to Sophie Williams about being an advocate, business, writing books, instagram, the murder of George Floyd, proximity to whiteness, taking 14 years off from chocolate and biscuits, talking to different audiences, the glass cliff and the glass ceiling.

Sophie has written two books that you should check out: Millennial Black and Anti-Racist Ally: An Introduction to Activism and Action

Here is her TED Talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/sophie_williams_the_rigged_test_of_leadership

Content Warning: COVID, racism, racist violence, police violence, family estrangement, anxiety, sexism, injections

Produced by Dave Pickering

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0:00.0	I'm a black woman, but I'm an incredibly privileged black woman.
0:03.6	I have incredibly fair skin, I have light eyes, my proximity to whiteness means that my day-to-day
0:10.1	life is easier than someone who can't have any separation from that.
0:15.2	Like, being a dark-skinned black woman is harder than my life.
0:19.2	Being a dark-skinned trans person is harder than my life.
0:23.7	Being a dark-skinned queer person is harder than my life.
0:26.1	All of these things are harder.
0:28.0	Being a dark-skinned and with all of the rest of my life being exactly the same
0:32.9	and my identities being exactly the same is still just harder.
0:38.9	I still don't have a jingle yet so I'll have to make it myself.
0:43.2	Who hurt you, the podcast with me, your host, Sophie Hagen.
0:48.3	I am back, I am back after a longer break.
0:51.3	The longest break we've had on this podcast so far.
0:54.1	and I will talk to you about this in way more detail after you hear my interview with anti-racism
1:00.4	advocates, Sophie Williams. What I will say is that at this moment, it's July 11th,
1:09.0	2000, 2021, that's not how we say it, it's July 11th, 2021 and I am staring at 10 files on my computer,
1:19.4	all with names of people that I have interviewed over the past four months.
1:23.4	Interviews that I have not yet sent to my editor, Dave, interviews that I have mostly forgotten
1:30.4	the context of. The short version of the reasoning behind this is mental health issues.
1:37.1	I realized that my whole life, out of this point, I thought that you could tell that therapy
1:43.5	was working when the hard stuff no longer felt that hard, but recently I learned that no therapy
1:52.0	is working when the hard stuff is hard, but you somehow have the actual strength to go through it
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