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Anti-Populism with Thomas Frank

The Dig

Daniel Denvir

News, Politics

4.81.7K Ratings

🗓️ 29 November 2020

⏱️ 98 minutes

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Summary

Guest host Astra Taylor interviews Thomas Frank about his book The People, No: A Brief History of Anti-Populism.

From The Dig archives on populism:
Universalizing American Liberty with Aziz Rana
Populism’s Power with Laura Grattan and Thea Riofrancos
Worker Freedom with Alex Gourevitch

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This episode of The Dig is brought to you by our listeners who support us at patreon.com

0:04.9

and by Verso Books, which has loads of great left-wing titles, perfect for dig listeners

0:11.5

like you.

0:13.1

One that you might like is Automation in the Future of Work by Aaron Beninov.

0:18.6

Silicon Valley Titans, politicians, techno-futurists, and social critics

0:22.7

have united in arguing that we are living on the cusp of an era of rapid technological automation,

0:29.1

heralding the end of work as we know it. But does the much-discussed rise of the robots

0:34.7

really explain the jobs crisis that awaits us on the other side of the coronavirus?

0:39.6

In automation in the future of work, Aaron Beninov uncovers the structural economic trends that

0:45.2

will shape our working lives far into the future. What social movements, he asks, are required

0:51.5

to propel us into post-scarcity if technological innovation alone cannot

0:56.6

deliver it. In response to calls for a universal basic income that would maintain a growing

1:01.4

army of redundant workers, he offers a counter-proposal. Mike Davis called the book, quote,

1:07.6

A powerful and persuasive explanation of why capitalism can't create jobs or generate income

1:14.0

for a majority of humanity.

1:16.0

I also interviewed Aaron earlier this year on this very subject.

1:20.3

Check it out if you have not already.

1:22.8

Automation in the Future of Work by Aaron Beninov.

1:25.7

Out now from Verso Books.

1:36.3

Music in the future of work by Aaron Beninov. Out now from Verso Books. Welcome to The Dig, a podcast from Jacobin Magazine. My name is Daniel Denver, and I'm

1:42.5

broadcasting from Providence, Rhode Island.

1:45.9

How did populism get such a bad name?

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