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Network. Thirteen has been my lucky number for a while.

Like it's always a sign of good things to come for me.

This is 13, a Taylor Swift fan podcast, breaking down every song, every Easter egg, every era, and every theory.

Hosted by the biggest Swifties, Nick Adams, Anna Cussier hosts, Amy Nichols and Lacey G.

Welcome to 13 a Taylor Swift fan podcast. My name's Nick Adams. I'm Anna'm Anna Amy and I'm Lacy G and today we're going to be breaking down anti-hero this is the third track and lead single from midnights it was written and produced by Taylor Swift and Jack Antonoff. Now before we

get started into breaking down everything this song is about, why don't we hear Taylor tell us what this song is about.

Track 3 anti-hero is one of my favorite songs I've ever written.

I really don't think I've delved this far into my insecurities in this detail before.

You know, I struggle a lot with the idea that, you know, my life has become unmanageably sized and that I you know not to sound too

dark but like I just struggle with the idea of like not feeling like a person. Like don't feel bad for me. You don't need to but you know this song really is a is a real guided tour throughout all the you know things I tend to hate about myself.

We all hate things about ourselves.

And it's all of those aspects of the things we dislike

and like about ourselves that we have to come to terms with

if we're gonna be this person.

So yeah, I like Antahiro a lot because I think it's really honest.

Me too. And just remembering that first time that we heard it all here together at midnight's,

and she just continuously says hi and the problem, hi and you can't get that out of

your head and now out of everything that Taylor's taken ownership of I also

think she's taken ownership of the word high. If somebody says hi to me and if you say it in that particular kind of cadence,

then I'm like, are you saying a Taylor Swift code to me or are you just greeting me?

I'm really not sure or are you mocking me right

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