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My First Million

Anti-Business Billionaires: Lessons from Steve Jobs, James Dyson, and Yvon Chouinard

My First Million

Hubspot

Investing, Entrepreneurship, Business

4.72.9K Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Episode 698: Sam Parr ( https://x.com/theSamParr ) talks to David Senra ( https://x.com/FoundersPodcast ) about what qualities make an anti-business billionaire.  — Show Notes:  (0:00) High Level of Disagreeableness (9:02) Extreme Self-Confidence (12:55) Product Quality Obsessed (18:37) Retention of Total Control (27:28) Exit Strategy is Death — Links: • Steal Sam's guide to turn ChatGPT into your Executive Coach: https://clickhubspot.com/wcv • Play Nice But Win - https://tinyurl.com/uuwumk8d  • Creative Selection - https://tinyurl.com/bdz8f9ae  • Founders Podcast - https://www.founderspodcast.com/ — Check Out Shaan's Stuff: • Shaan's weekly email - https://www.shaanpuri.com  • Visit https://www.somewhere.com/mfm to hire worldwide talent like Shaan and get $500 off for being an MFM listener. Hire developers, assistants, marketing pros, sales teams and more for 80% less than US equivalents. • Mercury - Need a bank for your company? Go check out Mercury (mercury.com). Shaan uses it for all of his companies! Mercury is a financial technology company, not an FDIC-insured bank. Banking services provided by Choice Financial Group, Column, N.A., and Evolve Bank & Trust, Members FDIC — Check Out Sam's Stuff: • Hampton - https://www.joinhampton.com/ • Ideation Bootcamp - https://www.ideationbootcamp.co/ • Copy That - https://copythat.com • Hampton Wealth Survey - https://joinhampton.com/wealth • Sam’s List - http://samslist.co/ My First Million is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by HubSpot Media // Production by Arie Desormeaux // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano

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0:00.0

They're like, would you be interested in selling your company?

0:02.0

The response was, fuck you, this is a family heirloom.

0:05.9

I feel like I can rule the world.

0:10.5

I know I could be what I want to.

0:13.5

I put my all in it like no days off.

0:15.8

On a road, let's travel, never looking back.

0:18.0

Okay, so what we're talking about today is basically I don't listen to any business

0:22.9

podcasts other than founders.

0:24.9

It's the only business podcast I listen to.

0:27.0

I listen to founders and I listen to MMA and True Crime.

0:30.5

That's pretty much it.

0:32.1

And so, like, I view you as my friend, but I also am a fan of yours.

0:36.2

And you tweeted out this amazing thing.

0:39.3

It was about the anti-business person, the anti-business man billionaire. So the first

0:44.1

tenant of these anti-business billionaires is they have high levels of disagreeableness.

0:50.5

This is very important because everybody around you, I just use a reference of Michael Dell.

0:55.1

Michael Dell could be on this list too.

0:56.5

I'm reading his autobiography, like I said earlier, and I got to the point where they're like,

1:00.1

he's taking the company private, and they're just, it's so difficult what he's trying to do.

1:04.4

And everybody's just like, why don't you just give up, Michael?

1:06.4

You're already rich.

1:07.3

You can start another company. He's like, I don't want to start another company. I want

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