This episode is brought to you by Fully Gemstones.

It makes sense in the worry beads.

Touching wood is Jesus' cross, isn't it?

So again, for thousands of years, we have imbued objects with memory, with spirits, with luck,

with calm, with spirituality, with God. And it's what we imbue them with and how we connect

with them that will then impact outcome. These sorts of needs don't discriminate.

It affects a lot of different kinds of people.

And of course, jewellery lovers and jewellery wearers are my main audience of people who really

see the benefit in having something functional that you can really be proud of

and that you want to invest in for not just the beauty of the

object, but for yourself, for yourself care.

I'm Carol Horton, the voice of jewellery. Welcome to If Jewels Could Talk.

I'm an author and broadcaster and the woman who initiated the role of jewelry editor at

magazines like Tatler and Vogue.

This is a podcast for everyone, for people who do like jewelry, for people who don't

realize they like jewelry, and anyone intrigued by fascinating facts, new ideas and forgotten

histories. So join me as I tell sparkly tales and meet all sorts of people delving into four centuries

of jewellery culture and investigate what's happening now.

I'm here today with Britain's leading psychotherapist, author and podcaster Julia Samuel.

Julia, thank you very much for joining us today.

Lovely to be with you, Carol.

Lovely to see you and to be on your podcast.

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