Anthropic, the Pentagon, and the Future of Autonomous Weapons
Odd Lots
Bloomberg
4.5 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 28 March 2026
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
The last big story right before the war in Iran started was the collapse in the relationship between the Pentagon and Anthropic, with the latter objecting to any potential use of its models in either fully autonomous weapons or domestic surveillance. Of course, this story immediately become more relevant with the start of the war, and the reporting that Anthropic's technology was in fact utilized at the start of hostilities. But what does that mean? How are these models used? And what would a fully autonomous weapons system actually entail? On this episode, we speak with Paul Scharre, the executive vice president and director of studies at the Center for a New American Security. He has written two books on the subject of AI in warfare, and previously worked inside the Department of Defense on some of these very questions. We discuss the future of autonomous weaponry, and the various ethical and technological dimensions such weapons would entail.
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| 1:55.0 | So Tracy, we're recording this March 24th and of course almost all of our episodes lately have been about the war in Iran. But what's |
| 2:02.9 | interesting or what's a little weird is that just prior to the war, literally days or maybe hours, |
| 2:08.6 | the biggest story in the world was actually about defense and the DOD. That's right. So you are |
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