Anthropic's Mythos Is More Powerful Than the U.S. Government's AI. Does That Make Sense?

Unchained

Laura Shin

Tech News, Business News, News

4.6 • 1.3K Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Can a private company be trusted to decide which 40 firms get access to the world’s most dangerous AI model? And separately — is the SEC’s new Reg Crypto finally the framework the industry has been waiting for since 2020? Thanks to our sponsors! *⁠ As Bitcoin's application layer, Citrea gives you access to the first trust-minimized BTC on a fully programmable platform and a native stablecoin for Bitcoin, ctUSD. You can now participate in Bitcoin capital markets with lending, privacy, payments, Bitcoin yield, trading and predictions. You get expanded Bitcoin utility without sacrificing its security. Citrea mainnet is live. Put your BTC to work at citrea.xyz/unchained. *⁠ Ether.fi is giving Unchained listeners 15% cashback on food and ride apps — and that's on top of the 3% you get on everything else. Your bank is charging you to use your own money. Laura switched and loves her card! Go to ether.fi/unchained to claim your offer. The week StarkWare’s chief product officer published a paper proposing a quantum-resistant mechanism for Bitcoin that doesn’t require changing Bitcoin’s code. The crew discuss the the threat quantum computers pose to bitcoin, which raises philosophical questions about what it means to “own” bitcoin. “Not your keys, not your coins” has long been the catchphrase — so what happens if a quantum computer wrests your keys away fro you? Plus they discuss the fact that Anthropic decided not to release its most powerful model to the public at the same time its technology is being removed from the government. What does it mean when a private company has greater capability than the U.S. government? Also, the SEC’s Division of Trading and Markets quietly released major guidance clarifying when DeFi front ends need to register as broker-dealers — and Chair Atkins announced what could become the first actual crypto rulemaking in the agency’s history. Katherine, Jessi, and TuongVy work through what each of these developments means for builders, lawyers, and founders navigating crypto right now — and why the question of who gets to make these calls is the same whether you’re talking about AI or regulation. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos⁠, General Counsel at StarkWare. Previously held senior legal roles across DeFi and centralized exchanges. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jessi Brooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, General Counsel at Ribbit Capital ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TuongVy Le⁠⁠, General Counsel at Veda Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi, all, and welcome to Dex in the City, where the wallets are cold and the takes are hot. Before we get going, remember, we're lawyers, but we're not your lawyers. So nothing you hear on Decks in the City is legal or financial advice, and it doesn't create an attorney-client relationship. So for the fine print, check Unchained Crypto.com. We're excited to get into it, but before we continue, here's a word from our sponsors.
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0:56.7	And we're back.
0:55.6	So we are your hosts. We're ready to get into this. First, we have Jesse, Web3
1:01.7	prosecutor turned Web3 protector at Ribbett Capital, NV, from the SEC to Web3. And I'm your host,
1:09.0	KK, Catherine, fluent in tradfiai and Conversant in Deep Tech over at
1:12.9	StarCware. So speaking of Deep Tech, it is the perfect time to talk about this. One of the words that
1:21.2	has been talked about a lot in Tratify, not just crypto, is quantum, quantum computing. And last week, StarCware's chief product
1:32.0	officer, who I must say is not only brilliant, but a really nice guy, a VU Levy, released a pretty
1:38.1	groundbreaking paper that solves a problem or an area of stress for all of crypto.
1:44.4	And the question and the problem really is, can quantum computing break Bitcoin?
1:50.2	And first, let me square this and speak in English for a second.
1:53.0	I think the real question, KK, is what is quantum computing?
1:58.0	And why does every time I learn about it, I feel like I understand it less?
2:03.3	Yeah. Great question, Jesse. So quantum computers are super computers. Very easy, very easily
2:10.7	understandable. They can solve things a thousand times faster, or don't quote beyond that, way, way, way faster than regular computers,
2:21.7	regular technology. So they change or promise to change a number of things fundamentally. And obviously,
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