Anthropic's Co-Founder on AI Agents, General Intelligence, and Sentience — With Jack Clark

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Alex Kantrowitz

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4.7 • 596 Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2024

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Jack Clark is the co-founder of Anthropic and author of Import AI. He joins Big Technology Podcast for a mega episode on Anthropic and the future of AI. We cover: 1) What Anthropic and other LLM providers are building towards 2) What AI agents will look like 3) What type of traning is neccesary to get to the next level 4) What AI 'general intelligence' 5) AI memory 6) Anthropic's partnerships with Google and Amazon 7) The broader AI business case 8) The AI chips battle 9) Why Clark and others from OpenAI founded Anthropic 10) Is Anthropic an effective altruism front organization? 11) The risk that AI kills us 12) The risk that AI takes our jobs 13) What regulation would help keep AI safe? 14) Is AI regulation just a front for keeping the small guy down 15) LLMs' ability to persuade --- Enjoying Big Technology Podcast? Please rate us five stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ in your podcast app of choice. For weekly updates on the show, sign up for the pod newsletter on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6901970121829801984/ Want a discount for Big Technology Premium? Here’s 40% off for the first year: https://tinyurl.com/bigtechnology Questions? Feedback? Write to: bigtechnologypodcast@gmail.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Anthropic co-founder Jack Clark is here to dive into the company.
0:03.5	It's partnerships with Amazon and Google.
0:06.3	Where AI Innovation heads next and plenty more in this mega episode about Anthropic
0:11.9	and AI coming up right after this.
0:14.8	From LinkedIn News, I'm Leah Smart, host of Everyday Better, an award-winning podcast dedicated
0:19.4	to personal development. Join me every week for captivating stories and research to find more fulfillment in your work and personal life.
0:26.4	Listen to Every Day Better on the LinkedIn Podcast Network, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
0:31.9	Welcome to Big Technology Podcast, a show for cool-headed, nuanced conversation of the tech world and beyond.
0:37.7	We're so lucky today to have Jack Clark with us.
0:40.8	Here, he is the Anthropic co-founder, formerly a journalist, formerly of Open AI.
0:46.0	We'll get into all of that.
0:47.3	He also writes Import AI.
0:48.8	It's a great newsletter all about AI that you can sign up for.
0:52.6	And we're going to talk with someone who's at the
0:55.8	center of one of the big companies working on AI and just go deep into what this field is doing,
1:02.6	where it's heading, and what we should look forward to. And it seems like there's plenty. So Jack,
1:07.4	so great to have you here. Welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. Let's just talk broadly about what's happening in the world of AI because I can tell you, like, as somebody who's observing this stuff, it seems like every big foundational research company, by the way, so for listeners, Anthropic has a great chatbot called Claude, which if you've listened to the show, you know we're fans of.
1:28.4	And then also the foundational model in the background that companies can build off of also
1:32.6	called Claude.
1:34.2	From the outside, it just looks like you guys, Google, Open AI, all building these models
1:40.0	and trying to build better chatbots.
1:43.2	And for some reason, that's worth billion,'s worth billion trillions and trillions of dollars.
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