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Anthropic’s C.E.O. Dario Amodei on Surviving the A.I. Endgame

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The New York Times

Technology

4.55.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 February 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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“I'm just worried that it'll be a shock to people when it happens.”

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0:00.0

So I went to two AI events this weekend.

0:03.0

It was sort of polar opposites of the kind of AI spectrum.

0:06.8

There was the effective altruists had their big annual conference.

0:11.6

And then on Friday night, I went out.

0:14.8

You'd be very proud of me.

0:16.0

I stayed out so late.

0:17.0

I stayed out until 2 a.m.

0:18.1

Oh, my.

0:18.7

I went to an AI rave that was sort of

0:23.7

unofficially affiliated with Mark Zuckerberg. It was called the Zuckrave.

0:28.6

Now, when you say unofficially affiliated, Mark Zuckerberg had no involvement in this,

0:32.8

and my assumption is he did not know what was happening. Correct. A better word for what

0:36.4

his involvement is would be

0:37.5

no involvement. He was sort of a tribute rave to Mark Zuckerberg thrown by a bunch of

0:43.8

acceleration as people who want AI to go very fast. Another word for it would be using his likeness

0:47.8

without permission. Yes. But that happens to famous people sometimes. Yes. So at the Zuck Rave,

0:53.5

I would say there was not much raving going on.

0:56.6

No?

0:57.5

There was a dance floor, but it was very sparsely populated.

1:00.9

They did have a thing there that would, like, you'd, it had a camera pointing at the dance floor,

1:05.3

and if you sort of stood in the right place, it would turn your face into Mark Zuckerberg's, like, on a big screen.

1:14.2

Which, let's just say it's not something you want to happen to you while you're on mushrooms.

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