Anthropic Mythos: Hype, reality and the actual security implications
Thoughtworks Technology Podcast
Thoughtworks
4.5 • 58 Ratings
🗓️ 30 April 2026
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
Anthropic Mythos garnered significant attention when it was launched in mid-April 2026. Yet despite it apparently presenting an unprecedented threat to global software, you don't have to look to closely to see that this was an effective product launch as much as a story about the grave security risks of today's AI models.
But this isn't to say there aren't important implications for software developers, security professionals and other technologists. In this episode of the Technology Podcast, one of our new hosts Nate Schutta is joined by Chris Kramer to discuss Anthropic Mythos and Project Glasswing, unpacking what's hype and what really matters.
A few links for this episode:
Some more information about Project Glasswing: https://www.anthropic.com/glasswing
A story about how a small Discord group briefly had access to Mythos: https://daringfireball.net/linked/2026/04/23/discord-group-has-claude-mythos-access
How Mozilla used Mythos to discover Firefox bugs: https://www.wired.com/story/mozilla-used-anthropics-mythos-to-find-271-bugs-in-firefox/
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | All right, hello and welcome to the ThoughtWorks Technology podcast. |
| 0:11.8 | I am one of your hosts, Nate Schuda. |
| 0:14.0 | Best way to describe me as architect as a service. |
| 0:17.6 | And I am here with my good friend, my colleague, my sometime co-conspirator, Chris Kramer. |
| 0:23.6 | Hey, thanks so much, Nate. I'm Chris Kramer. I'm a AI and machine learning leader at ThoughtWorks. |
| 0:29.6 | Outstanding. Well, thank you for taking some time to chat with me here today. I've been wanting to pick your brain about this since the announcement came out. So let's just |
| 0:38.2 | dive right into it. What do you think about mythos? Is this, is this finally going to be the |
| 0:43.4 | AI that destroys humanity? Is it just a stepwise change? We've got a lot of things I want to |
| 0:49.6 | dig into, but let's just start there by setting the table on mythos, your thoughts, and we'll see |
| 0:54.1 | where that gets us. Yeah, I,os, your thoughts, and we'll see where that |
| 0:54.4 | gets us. Yeah, I, I, you know, the community has been very interested in what's going on with |
| 1:02.4 | mythos, obviously. And it is not the doomsday AI, in my opinion. It is a stepping stone and very much a representation of the scaling |
| 1:14.1 | limits we are now reaching with the LLM topology. Yeah, I mean, it feels a little bit to me, |
| 1:22.6 | like things have slowed down a little bit in that regards and that there was this period where |
| 1:27.2 | a new model would come out and it's like, wow, this just absolutely blows away everything we had before. |
| 1:32.9 | And as is always the case in technology, that pace has definitely slowed. |
| 1:36.9 | And from what I can tell, there's definitely an improvement. |
| 1:39.8 | Now, for those that maybe haven't been paying us close attention, when Mythos was announced, |
| 1:44.3 | Anthropic came out and said, well, this is so dangerous that we need to contain it. And then they |
| 1:48.2 | announced this project Glasswing, which was basically a collection of technology companies |
| 1:53.6 | that were given access to it so that they could explore their code base, make sure there |
| 1:58.2 | weren't, you know, very glaring zero-day CV-type things. |
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