Anthropic, Amazon, and the Fable shutdown; AI-powered school arrives; World Cup tech
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🗓️ 20 June 2026
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Anthropic takes its most powerful models offline after a U.S. order, with Amazon CEO Andy Jassy reportedly contributing to the concerns that helped trigger it. Todd and John dig into the Amazon-Anthropic dynamic, how agentic AI is upending Amazon's "working backwards" tradition, an AI-driven school arriving soon in the Seattle area, and the sensor-packed World Cup ball.
With GeekWire co-founders John Cook and Todd Bishop; edited by Curt Milton.
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| 0:00.0 | I was using Fable for basic stuff like writing headlines, copy editing stories. In my mind, it was |
| 0:07.6 | kind of like lighting a candle with a blowtorch in some ways. That was kind of what Fable was. |
| 0:13.2 | And as of now, the models are still offline. Yes, unfortunately. |
| 0:25.9 | Welcome to Geekwire. I'm Geekwire co-founder Todd Bishop. And I'm Geekwire co-founder John Cook. |
| 0:39.1 | You're back from the light bulb factory. I guess that was the last show, wasn't it? Yes. From Cleveland to the Lake Washington Ship Canal. You know, people loved that episode, John. I got emails, text. I didn't get a lot of feedback. |
| 0:45.5 | Yeah. That's good to hear. Yeah. And it was such a vivid setting. And really, the takeaways are so important for Seattle that you and Charles Fitzgerald had from Cleveland, for people who missed this. |
| 0:50.5 | Just to recap, Charles and John went out the Northeast Ohio to John's old stomping |
| 0:57.1 | grounds and really we're able to talk to tons of community leaders and learn some lessons for |
| 1:02.8 | Seattle from not only Cleveland's decline but it's rebound and that to me was just a really cool |
| 1:09.1 | thing it was really fun to do so go back in your feed and listen to last week's episode as well as this one. It's good to have you back. And you are now immersed in World Cup. I've got the fever. Well, you've always had the fever. I know, but this is, you know, this is my jam. This is my moment. Exactly. Enjoying World Cup in your home country and your home city, it doesn't get better than this. |
| 1:30.4 | So I know you're going to, well, all of the matches, but you went to one so far. |
| 1:36.1 | By the time this airs, you will have been to two. |
| 1:38.9 | Correct. |
| 1:39.6 | Had you ever been in person to a World Cup match before? |
| 1:43.1 | Yes. |
| 1:43.4 | I went in 1994 the year I graduated from |
| 1:45.8 | college. I saw a match in Chicago. And so, as I said, it's just so fun to be in your hometown |
| 1:52.4 | city and go to a World Cup match and just the color and vibrancy and excitement. And I mean, |
| 1:58.7 | when you have thousands upon thousands of Egyptian fans matched with thousands |
| 2:03.1 | upon thousands of Belgian fans, you just don't see that in Seattle every day. |
| 2:07.2 | And so it's a really, this is the beautiful thing about World Cup soccer. |
| 2:11.0 | About the beautiful game. |
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