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Finding Genius Podcast

Ant Associations with Professor David Richard Nash

Finding Genius Podcast

Richard Jacobs

Medicine, Health & Fitness

4.41K Ratings

🗓️ 2 January 2021

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

What does an ant have in common with a human? Probably a whole lot more than you would expect. Tune in for a compelling conversation with David Richard Nash, a professor of ecology & evolution at the University of Copenhagen who's been working with social insects—particularly ants—for over four decades.

You'll discover:

  • What type of mutualistic relationship exists between ants and lycaenid butterflies
  • What Nash is learning about what causes the transition between parasitism and mutualism of ants with other organisms
  • About how many associations army ants have with other species, and what makes some of these associations particularly surprising

Nash shares the details of the many interactions between ants and other organisms, especially myrmecophiles, which are species which love ants. For instance, in exchange for protecting lycaenid caterpillars or aphids against predators or parasites, ants acquire an ongoing food source from those insects.

He talks about the parallels between ant colonies and behavior and humans, and the ability of ants to self-organize work teams to go out and obtain specific nutrients from other organisms when necessary. He also discusses the day-to-day activities of ants and the division of labor within a colony, the ecological role of ants, ant colony structure, the ant life cycle and habitat, parasitism versus mutualism of ants with other organisms, how ants adapt their behavior in response to environmental stimuli, whether ants have some level of what we generally understand as 'intelligence,' insect vision, sympatric speciation of ants, and so much more.

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0:30.3

This is the Finding Genius Podcast.

0:33.0

That Richard Jacobs.

0:35.0

Hello, this is Richard Jacobs with the Finding Genius Podcast.

0:41.0

I have David Richard Nash. He's an associate professor in

0:44.2

ecology and evolution, the University of Copenhagen. And we have to talk about

0:47.8

ants and with the co-evolution symbiosies that they are and they encounter.

0:53.1

So, David, thanks for coming.

0:55.0

I pleasure.

0:55.8

Your research sounds like an interesting combination.

0:57.7

Tell me about it.

0:58.3

What's the intent of it?

0:59.6

What are you working on?

1:01.3

Well, there's several different aspects of it. And so I've been working with social insects, particularly ants, for around 40 years now and on and off. And they have many parallels with human societies so I guess that's what caught my interest in the first place

1:18.4

but they also have many interactions with other organisms what's being called momechophiles, a species that love ants if you like.

1:27.0

And particularly there's a group of butterflies called the Lysenid butterflies,

1:31.0

which is where I started my research career working on an

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