Thanks to you, Issues et cetera consistently ranks among the top podcasts in religion and spirituality with Apple and Spotify podcasts.

Please help us reach more listeners in 2026 by making a year-end gift.

For a year-end donation of $240 or more, we'll send you our latest book, Objections Over Rule 4,

and a new recording of 15 hymns featuring

the Lutheran Public Radio Choir. You can make a secure online contribution at Issuesetc.org.

Thanks for listening, and thanks for your support. I can't quite put my finger on it, but there seems to be something wrong with this argument.

Sometimes it's not even stated as an argument. It is simply assumed to be true.

It's a presupposition, as they say, that because the Bible is old, because it is written not only in and about

very ancient ideas, cultures, people, it therefore doesn't apply so much today. We're living in the

21st century, a very different world than the world of the Bible, old and New Testaments.

The Bible's old. It simply doesn't apply. Greetings and welcome to issues, et cetera,

on this Monday afternoon, December the 29th. I'm Todd Wilkin.

Thanks for tuning us in.

We're going to continue our series answering arguments against Christianity.

The first argument, the Bible's old, doesn't apply anymore.

And another one, Christianity hates LGBTQ people.

Pastor Jonathan Connor will be our guest in our two.

And Issues, Et cetera, Encore, will study the Christmas hymn angels from the realms of glory with Pastor Will Whedon

of the Word of the Lord endures forever. Pastor Jonathan Connor is pastor of Zion Lutheran Church

in Manning, Iowa. He authored two chapters in our latest book, Objections Overruled Four.

Jonathan, welcome back. Thanks, Todd. Happy to be here. Does old equal irrelevant? Yeah, well, I mean, that certainly is an underlying

assumption of our culture, right? I mean, people claim this and then they'll, you know,

...