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The Interview

Anson Chan - Chief Secretary of Hong Kong, 1993-2001

The Interview

BBC

Politics, Government, News

4.3538 Ratings

🗓️ 16 September 2019

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

Extraordinary events have become the norm in the last three months in Hong Kong. The territory has become a cockpit of political protest and sporadic violence as many thousands continue to demand democratic reform. Stephen Sackur interviews Anson Chan; she was the Chief Secretary of Hong Kong during the handover from British to Chinese rule. She is still close to the centre of the storm, as Beijing now accuses her of fomenting the protest. Is Hong Kong’s fragile status quo irretrievably broken?

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to a podcast from the BBC World Service. This is Hard Talk with me, Stephen Sacker.

0:06.6

Thanks for downloading this edition of the program. I do hope you enjoy it.

0:10.8

Welcome to Hard Talk on the BBC World Service with me, Stephen Sacker.

0:15.3

My guest today has been intimately involved with the delicate recent history of one of the world's great city territories,

0:22.5

Hong Kong. Anson Chan was chief secretary to the last Hong Kong administration under British rule.

0:29.6

She has since been a member of the Territory's Legislative Council,

0:33.5

and she currently leads a think tank considering electoral reform.

0:38.1

She is not anyone's definition of a firebrand or a troublemaker,

0:43.2

but as Hong Kong has been rocked by months of pro-democracy street protests,

0:47.9

Anson Chan has been accused by Beijing of orchestrating the unrest.

0:53.2

She, in turn, has accused Hong Kong's chief executive

0:57.1

Carrie Lamb and her ultimate paymasters in Beijing of repressing the legitimate democratic

1:03.2

rights of Hong Kongers and riding roughshod over the territory's special status and basic law,

1:10.1

as agreed at the time of the handover. So with tensions

1:13.2

rising, is Hong Kong's fragile status quo irretrievably broken? Well, Anson Chan joins me now on the line

1:21.8

from Hong Kong. Welcome to Hard Talk. Thank you. In your city, we have seen three months now of street demonstrations

1:32.1

and protests. They have become increasingly violent. Is your heart and your head still with the

1:41.0

protest movement? Yes, very much so. I think it is a pity that there is

1:47.0

escalating violence, both on the part of the protesters, although involving a very small

1:52.6

number of people, but also on the part of the police, the police are increasingly brutal

1:58.2

and unrestrained in exercise of their powers. But I'm very much behind

2:04.1

the underlying causes of this movement. It is about Hong Kong's fight to defend basic freedoms,

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