Another Plan To Stop The Boats
Newscast
BBC
4.4 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 10 July 2025
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Summary
Today, the UK and France have unveiled a new “one in, one out” plan to reduce small boat Channel crossings.
Announcing the deal at the end of Emmanuel Macron’s state visit to the UK, Keir Starmer said migrants arriving on small boats will be returned to France, in exchange for asylum seekers who have not tried to enter the UK illegally.
Adam and Chris unpack what’s in the deal, and ask whether this latest plan will work.
Plus, host of Newsnight, Victoria Derbyshire joins Adam to talk about her experiences speaking to migrants in France who are hoping to make small boat crossings to the UK.
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| 0:11.7 | And I flicked through it, and I can't remember what page it's on, but newscast is there, because we're going to be broadcasting from the Edinburgh Fringe for a week in August, starting on Monday the 4th. |
| 0:22.3 | The shows will be every day, 4.15 in the afternoon for an hour, and they're happening at the |
| 0:27.3 | gilded balloon at the museum, which is one of the gilded balloon venues, and it's at the National |
| 0:32.4 | Museum of Scotland. And you can get tickets if you're going to be there, and you'd like to come and hang out with me. |
| 0:39.3 | Don't quite know what we're going to do yet, but it'll probably be along the lines of a classic episode of Newscast. |
| 0:43.8 | And if you want to apply for tickets, the details are in the episode description of this very episode of Newscast. |
| 0:51.5 | Newscast from the BBC. |
| 0:53.9 | He has just compared me to the fat controller. |
| 0:56.8 | Did I say that? |
| 0:58.3 | I can't believe I said that. |
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| 1:12.0 | Blimey. Hello, it's Adam in the newscast studio. And Emmanuel Macron, the French president's |
| 1:18.0 | official state visit to the UK, has ended on Thursday afternoon. He had a summit with his ministers |
| 1:24.1 | and their opposite numbers in Downing Street. And then he and the Prime Minister |
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