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The Lawfare Podcast

Another ISIS Leader Killed

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🗓️ 4 February 2022

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Last night, U.S. forces in Northern Syria killed Abu Ibrahim al-Hashimi al-Qurayshi who until yesterday was the current leader of ISIS. It was an operation in which at least 13 people, including civilians, were killed, apparently when al-Qurayshi detonated a bomb that destroyed the building they were in. 

What are the implications for the future of ISIS, for the future of Syria and for the future of the U.S. military, which is supposedly at peace these days? To chew it over, Benjamin Wittes sat down with Lawfare senior editor Scott R. Anderson, and Hassan Hassan, editor-in-chief of New Lines Magazine. They talked about who al-Qurayshi was, what we know about him, who on the ground was helping the United States, the future of Syria and its new political landscape, and what this all means for Joe Biden.

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Also, check out LawFair's other podcast offerings, rational security, chatter, LawFair

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no bull and the aftermath.

0:32.6

In ISIS, when they lost the Caliphate, a lot of people expected that they're going to

0:39.0

launch revenge attacks and attack here and there, but they became more and more focused

0:44.4

on local environments, whether you're talking about Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Syria,

0:49.1

Syria, Syria, Syria.

0:59.1

I'm Benjamin Wittes and this is the LawFair podcast February 4, 2022.

1:09.4

Last night, U.S. forces killed in northern Syria, Abu Ibrahim al-Hashimi al-Kharashi, the

1:16.6

current leader of ISIS, or at least until yesterday, the current leader of ISIS.

1:23.3

It was an operation in which at least 13 people, including civilians, were killed apparently

1:30.5

when Kharashi detonated a bomb that destroyed the building they were in.

1:36.9

What are the implications for the future of ISIS, for the future of Syria, for the future

1:43.4

of the U.S. military, which is supposedly at peace these days, we gathered an excellent

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group to chew it over.

1:51.9

LawFair's senior editor, Scott R. Anderson and Hassan Hassan editor in Chief of New

1:59.4

Lines magazine.

2:01.6

We talked about who al-Kharashi was, what we know about him, hint, not very much.

2:08.1

We talked about who on the ground was helping the United States.

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It will surprise you.

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