Welcome to Deconversion Therapy the podcast.

This is Bonnie.

And in the background, you can hear my neighbor Roy, pressure cleaning his driveway.

He's getting it ready for the holiday season.

Good times.

But yeah.

That's Karen talking in case you can't tell the difference.

It's not Roy.

That's right.

That's Roy talking.

So, welcome in.

We are doing a little Christmas episode here for you.

And I guess in the welcome,

do you want me to do just find us on all the platforms except maybe Twitter?

TikTok is Karen's milieu.

Is that the right word? It's my medium. I work in various medium. That one's one. So, and also Instagram, but I didn't realize Instagram had changed so much. You realized it

because you pay attention to stuff like that. And I told

you. And you told me, you, you told me, but I was just happily accepting all of their advertising

and buying piles of shit that was so tailored to me. But somebody recently mentioned, you know, well, it's like with Facebook,

you used to connect with people who you hadn't known in a while. And now on Instagram, you don't

see your friend's posts. And I was like, wait a minute, they're right. I'm like, I'm friends

with my friend Kat on Instagram. I haven't heard from her in a couple of years, maybe.

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