It was definitely a hard thing and I think it is such a betrayal for a spouse to

to go through what we're walking through and it was hard. It was hard to

realize that it was such a public thing and so not only was it a betrayal

against me but it was also a betrayal for those that call themselves Christian

because here we were as a Christian couple everyone was able to see us get

married and and to vow before God to be loyal to each other and that loyalty was

broken and so you know for my heart it was just like how you know how could

how could this happen in our marriage? Josh was my first love he's my one and only

but I knew that my only hope was to cling to my faith because I know if I went off of what I was feeling

I would turn a mess into a disaster and so I think in the stun and in the shock of everything

I was just praying out help help me to know how to respond to all of this you know I didn't know

what to do I knew we needed help and I was just praying that God would give the the help and the

wisdom that we needed to know how to take the next step.

All right you guys let's talk about Josh Dugger and the Dugger family at large

just a perpetual pervert who continues to be failed by his family his religion and their need

for political power. I just find obviously I mean it goes without saying that I find this whole

situation absolutely disgusting. I am sure that a lot of podcasts are going to be talking about

this so my choice was to kind of go back through the timeline and with reference to the show

and you guys I even watched an hour plus of the interview that Jim Bob and Michelle

and also Jess and Jill did with Megan Kelly. Megan Santa Claus is white Kelly so I mean

you're welcome because that was really tough for me. I mean I gotta say like comparatively

Megan Kelly is practically like a socialist compared to the Duggers in this interview so

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