Imagine you're a senior in high school and you go to your final debate.

You've been on the debate team all four years.

You've won, you've lost, but you've had success and you love to debate because you love free speech.

And you go and you show up to the debate.

And the judge excoriates you for something you're not even debating about.

Some other tangential belief, perhaps, or something that the judge disagrees with, but that is open for debate.

Debate in high school is no longer debate.

James Fishback wrote about this for the free press.

He's written a part two.

He's amazing.

He joins us next.

Welcome to the Michelle Tofoya podcast.

Let me read you the first part of Michelle Tofoya podcast.

Let me read you the first part of what the free press printed for James Fishback's second article.

One month ago, James Fishback, a former debate champion, wrote a piece for us exposing

how high school debate has been hijacked by political and ideological judges.

The article went viral.

Politicians on both sides of the aisle tweeted their shock at Fishback's findings.

Democratic rep Roe Kana and Republican Senator Ted Cruz invited him to meet with them to discuss the problem.

Most importantly, more than 100 coaches, debate parents, and debaters, both current and former, reached out to Fishback to share

their own experiences, confirming that in high school debate, debate is no longer allowed. That number included people from inside the

National Speed and Debate Association, the key institution Fishback investigated, who told him

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