You are listening to the Mortification of Spin.

I am Todd Pruitt.

I'm the pastor of Church of the Savior in Wayne, Pennsylvania.

And as always, I'm joined with Carl Truman,

pastor of Cornerstone Presbyterian Church in Ambler, Pennsylvania,

and Professor of Church History at Westminster Theological Seminary.

Good afternoon, Carl.

Great to be here, Todd, and you're looking well.

Well, you're looking well as well.

This is terrific so far.

A great bit of mutual patting on the back at this point.

It is great. Now, one of the things

that makes me feel good about today is that I'm overdressed compared to you. I have on pants that

go all the way down to my ankles. You're wearing shorts. I am. I have the British person's

metabolism that means when the temperature rises above about 60 degrees in the

Philadelphia area, I have to move to minimal clothing very, very rapidly.

I mean, it does my heart good.

I mean, granted, I would rather not look at your pasty white legs, but I do like any given

setting where I am not the most underdressed.

It makes me feel like a grown-up, and I appreciate

you doing that for me. I probably need to take John Payne up on his offer of free tanning booth

facilities at the PCA church planting. But there's something wrong about a tan Englishman,

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