You're listening to Song Exploder, where musicians take apart their songs, and piece by piece, tell the story of how they were made.

I'm Rishi Kesh Hirwe.

Anoni is a singer and songwriter, originally from England, who started putting out music in 2000.

She's released six albums and won the Mercury Prize.

She's also been nominated for two Brit Awards and an Oscar. For this episode, I talked to her about

the song, Four Degrees, from her 2016 album, Hopelessness. It might be strange to describe a song

about climate change as an anthem, but that's what I think it is, and it feels more urgent

with every passing year. It's also one of my most listened to songs. It was produced by two

of my favorite electronic musicians, Daniel O'Patten, aka One O'Trix Point Never, and Ross

Burchard, aka Hudson Mohawk. I got to speak to Ross about how he started the track on his own

before it became a collaboration between the three of them.

This is an episode I've been trying to make happen since 2016.

Here it is.

I want to hear the dogs crying for water.

I want to see the fish go bare up in the sea

And all those lemurs and all those tiny creatures

I want to see them burning it's only for the breeze.

My name is Anoni.

I had started working on an album with Dan Lopatant on demos, electronic demos, for a whole array of songs.

The record I've been making with Dan was going to be this kind of spectral

electro record, but things weren't quite coming into focus. Hi, I am Ross Hudson Mohawk. How did you

first hear Anoni's music and get connected with her? It goes back to an after party that I was at in Glasgow, just around the time

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