This episode is brought to you by Shopify.

Looking to start a side hustle or become your own boss.

Do it with Shopify.

Whether you're selling succulents or stilettoes,

Shopify has the industry leading tools to help you create,

control and grow your own business.

So get serious about selling and get Shopify today.

Sign up for a one pound per month trial period at shopify.coidek slash special offer

or lowercase that That's Shopify.

Coe dek slash Special Offer. Well hello there and welcome to out to lunch where I treat my esteemed

guests to magnificent food and the conversation fair flows. My guess this

week is a club DJ broadcaster and now novelist.

As you all here during our lunch I put it to her that she was on the cusp of huge life changes

and I wasn't wrong. Soon after our encounter she announced to the world that she would be leaving her eponymous

Radio 1 show after 17 years at the helm.

So we don't discuss that, but we do talk about club culture, the threat to it from the festival

circuit, digging deep to write fiction fiction and the fear of being reviewed.

I've been there. It's a romp of a chat which is exactly what you'd expect from the great Annie

McManus.

Did you ever have a rider? For a while I had a pig on it thinking, oh, maybe like a key ring or a nice postcard or something.

But one time in Portsmouth someone put two live pigs in my dressing room.

And were you delighted or slightly bemused?

...