Hello and welcome to the Bullwork Podcast. It's Friday July 5th. I'm just so pumped to be here with Andy Lowry.

She's a staff writer at The Atlantic,

because we're an Atlantic fan podcast here.

She's the author of Give People Money,

as well as a forthcoming book called The Time Tax.

She was formerly an economic policy writer for the New York Times.

And her husband is a columnist for a niche kind of regional outlet

and shit.

I'm trying to get him on the podcast as long as I forget his name.

Hey Annie what's happening with you? Not too much I'm here in beautiful and surprisingly warm San Francisco.

I'm happy to be talking here in a calm summer vacation week for

our American democracy. It's so calm. It's warm in San Francisco. I moved from

the bay as you did,

to get away from those freezing out summers.

Yeah, it's been typical San Francisco summer

and then today it's actually warm.

And as you know, nobody has AC C here so it's a little bit

sweaty okay great so you're sweating it out just like me here in New Orleans all right well

look we had you on initially because we said it's the holiday week let's talk

about you know it's talk about fun stuff,

it's about culture and the economy

and what's happening in our society.

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