I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

But I will bear true faith and allegiance to the sea that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion and that I will will inflate the lead discharge.

The duties of the office on which I am about to enter.

So help me God, so help me God.

Welcome to the Oath. I'm Chuck Rosenberg and I am honored to be your host for another compelling conversation with a fascinating guest from the World of Public Service.

Our guest this week is Anne Milgram, the former Attorney General of New Jersey, and grew up in East Brunswick, New Jersey, the daughter of a college professor and an engineer.

But other relatives, including her grandfather, a New Jersey police chief, were in law enforcement and so and thought of law enforcement as the family business.

And though she was to spend much of her adult life in that family business, she was not particularly interested in it growing up.

After attending Rutgers University and New York University Law School, a clerkship with a prominent federal judge and Trenton opened her eyes to life in the courtroom.

As Anne will tell you, that changed her journey.

After her clerkship, she worked as a local prosecutor in the Manhattan District Attorney's Office for the legendary Robert Morgan Thou.

And yes, you will hear about a crime peculiar to New York City that shaped the way she thinks about our criminal justice system, token sucking.

And then join the Civil Rights Division of the United States Department of Justice as a federal prosecutor investigating hate crimes and sex trafficking cases.

At the age of 36, Anne's career took a remarkable turn when the governor of New Jersey appointed her to be that state's Attorney General.

That appointment made her the second youngest Attorney General in the United States, the second youngest Attorney General in New Jersey history, and that state's chief law enforcement officer with a staff of more than 9,000 employees.

And because a prior Attorney General had assumed control of the Camden Police Department, she was also in charge of the police force of what she described as one of the most violent places on earth.

Anne is a remarkably thoughtful and intelligent woman. It is a treat to listen to her talk about how she managed such a large and important office, and how she addressed the violent crime problem in her state and in Camden.

The steps she took to reform the Camden Police Department, something she did with a talented and caring police chief that she hired, are a model for enlightened and progressive policing.

Emblacing on the wall of City Hall in Camden is a line from the renowned poet and Camden resident Walt Whitman. In a dream, I saw a city invincible.

And what Camden needed was an Attorney General up to the task, passionate, dedicated, brilliant, and invincible.

And Milgram, welcome to the oath.

Thank you for having me. It's great to be here.

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