Hey, it's NPR's Book of the Day. I'm Andrew Limbaugh. Writing fiction about writers who are

really good at writing is always a tricky proposition. Because if the fictional writer's writing

is good enough that it's worth all the drama that you're about to put your characters through,

well, then you have to write something that good. It's a massive

amount of faith to put into your own skills as a writer. This is something our guest today gets into,

and Enright is the author of the new book The Ren, the Ren, about the Fallout that comes from having

a great artist slash awful man in the family.

And she tells NPR Scott Simon that she actually had an easy time getting into the skin of that type of guy because she knows those types of guys.

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You can make a long list of men considered geniuses, writers, statesmen, scientists, artists,

who are also abusive husbands, neglectful fathers, and utter boars.

One such man is the famed Irish poet at the heart of a new novel.

Phil McDara is pure fiction, but he comes alive through poetry like,

The Wren the Wren was a panic of feathered air in my opening hands so fierce and light,

I did not feel the push of her assent away from me.

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