From WNYC Studios.

I'm Brian Lehrer.

This is my daily politics podcast.

It's Wednesday, April 23rd.

Are Donald Trump and the MAGA movement making America hungry again?

Not hungry as in not enough food, though that may come too,

depending on how the terrorist policies work out. Hungry as in the country.

Sundays, all things considered, maybe you heard it, looked at what's happening in Victor Orban's

Christian right authoritarian utopia, some see it as, and related it to what has been happening

this year here. Here's a clip from that report of Kasaba Lukaks, I hope I'm saying that right,

managing director of Magyar Hang, translation Hungarian voice, a newspaper formed by journalists

at what used to be prominent newspapers that have now

been forced to shut down by Viktor Orban's government. The journalist, Lukox, is talking here about

how far democracy, including freedom of the press, have fallen and not.

We are not yet in Turkey because the journalists will be not jailed yet.

We are not in Russia because nobody was falling out from the windows yet.

But day by day, we are getting closer.

And by many measures, so are we.

Here's Peter Krecko, a Hungarian political scientist in that all things considered report.

I think Trump went further in two months than Orbán could in 15 years.

The United States, it reminds me of a constitutional coup, where everything happens very rapidly.

And who better to talk about what that source described as a constitutional coup

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