Hey everybody it's Tim we officially have our Denver event June 21st go to the bulwark.com slash events one eagle-eyed listener has already noticed that the event was planned between game six and game seven of the

NBA finals which would only be relevant if the Nuggets win on Sunday so

t-b-B-D maybe that was an accident maybe it was on purpose here's the thing about

the Denver event sometimes in show, we come on and say,

hey, it might sell out in order to get people to sell tickets.

But in this case, this thing's gonna sell out.

So if you wanna come to our Denver event,

you should get tickets, A-S-A-S-A-P. We've already sold a bunch and we're

going to have a special guest out there in June. It's going to be really great. I'll

probably go out afterwards. It's a great time to do a weekend in my hometown. So get those tickets, ASAP.

One other thing I made a little goof on yesterday's outro song. I sent I sent Jason Tin Machine by Tin Machine.

Tin Machine, if you don't know, that's a David Bowie side project that he took on.

The song was good, but was not about red lines and Nazis and far right agitators, which was in the theme of the episode yesterday.

So I put the song I meant to put on the Spotify playlist.

So you can go check it out on Spotify. Friend of the pod Jake has been

also creating a mirror Apple music playlist which you can find as well. So

appreciate you guys so much. Up next, a very serious conversation with somebody I admire a whole lot

and Applebaum. Hello and welcome to the board podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller. I'm delighted

to welcome back in Applebaum, staff writer at the Atlantic. Her books include

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the Pulitzer Prize winning Gulag, a history,

and most recently twilight of democracy,

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