How far down in nature does consciousness run? I am completely convinced that this is a totally legitimate and very important scientific question at this point in time. Your brain is working with an operation that 99% of the time is giving you accurate information. But you can trick it and kind of expose the way it's not necessarily giving you a perfect window onto reality. There's a construction

taking place. They did psilocybin and LSD research. Something like 80% of the scientists

in the study of 200-something scientists came out of that experience with an answer to the problem

they had been stuck on. Things that are very common for people to experience is a dropping

away of self. And from a

neuroscience perspective, the experience we have of being a self in the way we experience it is

really an illusion. In those states, we do in certain situations get a much more accurate window

onto reality. It may be that the thing we experience is a mapping of something else,

and that something else is actually very different from space and time.

Has it been fun to do all these interviews and like dive into what you've been learning

about consciousness? I'm curious if by doing the interviews and talking it through that

anything's even evolved from that. I have a hard time with interviews. I trust myself much more as a

writer. I like to take my time to craft my words and really make sure I get everything right. So

it's interesting. It's been a challenge for me since my book

came out in 2019. But this book tour has actually, I feel like I'm learning something that I didn't

learn the first time around. And I think the more comfortable I am, the more, yeah, these end up being,

I mean, they're like the conversations that I recorded for

the docu series where it's wonderful to have people listen to this 11-hour creation that I thought,

you know, maybe five people in the world would be interested in. And everyone has different

questions and makes me think about it differently. And yeah, I mean, as I don't know how much

of the series you had time to listen to, as I don't know how much of the

series you had time to listen to, but I'm sure you got the idea that I'm just fascinated by this

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