Welcome to the Eric Metaxis show with your host, Eric Metaxus.

Folks, I'm talking to Naomi Wolf, and we're talking about everything, but we're talking about really ugly things like vaccine passports.

Naomi, let me ask you this.

It's one thing to talk about vaccine passports, which really sickens me, and I think everyone should stand against it.

Actually, before I ask you the

question I wanted to ask you, let me ask you this question first. What can we do? In other words,

my attitude would be absolutely refuse to get a vaccine passport for any reason, just as a matter

of principle. And I'm not getting the vaccine either.

And I have been public in saying that, I don't think people should just get the vaccine.

If you feel a particular need, maybe then, sure, get the vaccine.

But people are sort of automatically getting it.

I say that's not a good idea.

What do you say to that?

I mean, I'm not a doctor,

but I'm in touch with some of the key scientists who signed the Great Barrington Declaration,

who are some of the premier epidemiologists and virologists in the world. And they warn that

young people, healthy people have no reason to get what is still in experimental trials and that there's more

of a danger for unknown side effects for young healthy people who are not at risk of serious

effects from the virus. So that's my takeaway, you know, but that's a very personal choice.

But going to your second point about, hold on, you say's a very personal choice. But going to your second point about...

Hold on. You say it's a personal choice, but isn't that the point?

The idea that everybody's being told, just go along with it, get the vaccine, get the vaccine.

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