There's diggin and then there's super digging. There's food and then there's Baker's Superfoods made with selected natural ingredients and tasty chicken.

The food. And then there's Baker Superfoods. There's an end word that you're not allowed to say anymore, but I'm going to say it.

There's an N-word that you're not allowed to say anymore, but I'm going to say it.

Nationalist.

It doesn't have to be a bad word.

We got to distinguish between two different kinds of nationalism.

The first is ethno-nationalism.

That's the kind people usually think of.

And it's natural because most nations' identities have been built around an ethnicity

or a religion or a monarch.

In that case, the track record of history hasn't been great for what that type of nationalism produces either for a country or for its

neighbors.

Distinct from that though is civic nationalism and that's the kind of nationalism that I think is

relevant in the United States of America because our country is defined not

based on an ethnicity, not based on a language or a monarch or a cuisine or a religion for that matter.

Our country is defined on the basis of a civic set of ideals

that brought together a divided polyglot and yes, religiously diverse group of people 250 years

ago. And so I don't think that that's the kind of nationalism we need to run from.

I think we believe in the exceptionalism of those ideals. That's what American exceptionalism is about.

It is a belief in the exceptionalism of the ideals that made this country great the first time around.

And I think we're reaching an interesting fork in the road for the future of our conservative

movement.

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