Anita Hill is Getting Even. We Believe Her.
Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso
Higher Ground
4.8 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 3 April 2022
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
This week we’re joined by Professor Anita Hill. She’s an author, lawyer, and host of the new podcast, Getting Even with Anita Hill.
We begin by discussing her excellent new program (5:24), which reexamines her landmark testimony against Judge Clarence Thomas (9:04), her precarious relationship with the legal system (12:57), the unnerving attacks she received in the aftermath of 1991 (19:34), the survivors of sexual harassment emboldened by her work (27:35), and why the structural barriers to justice remain in 2022 (32:17).
After the break, Anita replays the phone call she received from President Joe Biden in 2019 (36:45), the weight of her decision to speak out (41:35), the significance of Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson’s Supreme Court nomination (44:48), her mother’s enduring influence (49:15), and a poem by Pauli Murray that keeps the song of hope alive in her (51:00).
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| 0:00.0 | Pushkin |
| 0:09.0 | Hey, this is Sam. |
| 0:10.0 | If you enjoy our interviews with writers and artists on Talk Easy, then I'd recommend checking |
| 0:14.8 | out the podcast Missing Pages. Hosted by acclaimed literary critic and author Beth Ann Patrick, |
| 0:21.5 | Missing Pages investigates the biggest hot button topics in the book world today |
| 0:26.4 | with the help of special guests like New York Times Best-Selling author Jody Pekle |
| 0:31.3 | and publisher weeklies Jim Miliet. |
| 0:33.8 | Produced by the people at the Podglamaret, |
| 0:36.1 | Missing Pages explores everything from the insta frame of Colleen Hoover |
| 0:40.3 | to the rise of book bands across America to the lucrative culture of non-fiction ghost writing. |
| 0:46.0 | As both the Washington Post and the Guardian praise, |
| 0:49.0 | missing pages is a must listen. |
| 0:52.0 | So if you'd like to check it out, you can follow missing pages on |
| 0:55.0 | Apple Podcast or wherever you like to listen. This is talk easy. I'm Sam by Professor Anita Hill. |
| 1:30.0 | Anita is also. Today I'm joined by Professor Anita Hill. |
| 1:34.0 | Anita is also an author, lawyer, and the host of a new podcast called Getting Even with |
| 1:40.0 | Anita Hill. The show made by by Pushkin Industries, is about equality and what it takes to get |
| 1:46.3 | there. Every Friday, she talks with people on the front lines of improving our imperfect world. |
| 1:53.0 | Her most recent episodes include conversations with Don Hudson, CEO of the Academy of Motion Pictures, |
| 2:00.1 | and Kimberly Krenshaw, the legal scholar that coined the terms intersectionality and critical race theory. |
| 2:06.4 | You can find getting even with Anita Hill on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, |
| 2:10.9 | or wherever you do your listening. |
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