Animal Justice with Martha Nussbaum

Overthink

Ellie Anderson, Ph.D. and David Peña-Guzmán, Ph.D.

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Education

4.7 • 549 Ratings

🗓️ 17 January 2023

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Wild animals who build communities, domestic companions who love, and captive creatures who suffer. In episode 69 of Overthink, Ellie and David talk with renowned philosopher Martha Nussbaum about her capabilities approach to animal justice. They touch on topics as varied as animal sentience, factory farming, habitat destruction, and the ethics of predation. Together, they discuss the failure of established ethical frameworks to fully incorporate the more-than-human world, explore our ethical responsibilities to other animals, and consider how our legal system might need to change in order to facilitate the flourishing of all life on earth.

Works Discussed
Rachel Aviv, The Philosopher of Feelings
Martha Nussbaum, Justice for Animals: Our Collective Responsibility

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0:00.0	Before we get into today's episode, I just wanted to note that my audio is not quite up to our usual standards.
0:05.6	I was having some technical difficulties. It's only a problem with my audio stream, and I hope you don't find it distracting.
0:10.7	But just wanted to state our apologies off the bat for that. Enjoy. Hello, and welcome to Overthink.
0:29.1	The podcast where two philosophy professors apply philosophy to everyday life.
0:34.4	I'm your co-host, Dr. Ellie Anderson.
0:37.0	And I'm your co-host, Dr. David Pe. And I'm your co-host, Dr. David Peña Guzman.
0:40.4	David, we just had an episode on heroes. And how fitting is it that in this episode, we get to talk to
0:46.9	a real-life hero, a living legend, if you will? And I will, a real legend. Absolutely. I devoured her profile in The New Yorker in
0:56.9	2016 on a long plane ride, this amazing article talking about her trajectory as a philosopher,
1:03.6	all of the incredibly important work that she's done. And this was published at a time when I was
1:08.3	really needing some inspiration and feeling a bit lost,
1:12.6	having just finished my dissertation, not sure where I was going to go next.
1:16.7	Like, reading this 2016 New Yorker profile brought me so much joy and so much life and
1:22.5	solidified her status as hero to me.
1:26.0	Yeah.
1:26.2	And of course, her in question is Dr. Martha Nussbaum,
1:30.7	and we're so happy to have her on with us today. We both have been reading her work for a long time.
1:36.9	In your case, Ellie, I believe you began with her work, upheavals of thought. I've been reading her
1:41.7	since I was an undergrad, and she's had a fascinating and
1:46.4	influential career. So definitely a powerhouse in the contemporary philosophical world.
1:53.3	For real, she has worked in so many different areas. She has truly helped shape the world
1:58.3	that we live in and hopefully will continue to do so in
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