Okay, we are alive. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates on today's show. I have two returning guests. Their names are Paul and Philip Collins. They've just published an article in cultural engineering studies in the full title of the article. If you're watching this on X, Rockfin, or Rumble is Anglotopian Dream, science fiction, and the Anglophile, Millew, 1871, 1904.

And I also had Jason Orsley on last week. We talked about his article, the moviegoer, in the same magazine, online magazine.

And I put a link to it. But this is not our first show we've done two shows

on their book invoking to beyond the canteen rift mythologized menaces and the quest for the new man

and then we did one with this whole character character who popped up and then just seemed to

disappear this guy grush yeah the title of that one was deception through disclosure decoding the Grush Enigma.

And that was a very interesting event in the whole UFOology kind of realm.

But we're going to talk about this.

We were talking to the pre-show.

I had done a show with Charlie Robinson aboutbertson about the pilgrim society and was really fascinated how interesting this article tied into my research with that

arthur conan doyle who kind of overlaps who was a member of the knights templar and a member of the pilgrim society

and kind of part of this late 19th century science fiction that came out of the UK.

But these guys can talk more about that.

So Paul and Philip, welcome back to the show.

Thanks for having this.

Yeah.

Thank you, William.

Thank you.

Awesome.

So for people who may not kind of know your background, haven't heard our earlier interviews or know your books maybe you guys could do a

little kind of overview and what led you up to being involved in writing a paper

or article for cultural engineering studies titled angletopian dreams yeah we've

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