Good morning. You are listening to James O'Brien on LBC, joined this morning by the deputy leader of the Labour Party, Angela. I want you to know something before I say hello to Angela. The switchboard is open and you can ring in with any question you want. She, as you probably gathered from her appearances at PMQ, she's not exactly backwards in coming forwards and would be quite prepared to answer any question that you may have, but about anything. I'm glancing at my screen. I'm thinking we probably won't take the question about car parks in High Wycom. I don't know if it's a particular expertise of yours. It's not, but I do know that car parks and parking is one of the most contentious issues up and down the UK, if I'm honest.

Not on this show, mate. Not on this show. But I mean, anything within reason that falls in her brief as deputy leader of the Labour Party, you will be put straight through to her.

035-6060673 is the number that you need. So while you get yourself, while you get your skates on and get your calls and your questions ready, I've got a couple that I will put to you, Angela. We should begin with the front page of the Times today. Speaking lessons for all pupils. Does this mean that Kirstama wants a generation, wants a country where people talk more like me than you? Definitely not. And that's definitely not our... Well, I won't get away with it while I'm in there anyway because I ain't changing the way I speak. It's about confidence. That's what it's about. It's about giving people the confidence in their own voice, which is what I've kind of tried to do in being real to myself and the way I speak. I speak like most mancunions around me. And, you know, I think it's important

that people can present themselves in their true form. And I think far too often people

feel they have to be a version of something else and a chiseled away at to conform. Whereas

actually, what we're proposing is that level of confidence to be who you are

and teaching confidence. Because in private schools, a lot of the time, people are taught

about their confidence, talk about presentation, talk about how to think. You know, it's not even,

I mean, sometimes it's more like osmosis than an actual explicit lesson. It's just you

naturally do debating. You stand up in class. Exactly. And I've

talked about it's almost implied from a working class background from an early ages, know your place.

No one ever said to me, Angie, know your place. Get out, stay in your lane. But it was kind of implied in

everything we did, you know, police, doctors, people like that, they were people that did things to you.

They weren't the people like you. And again, it's giving people, young people in particular,

that confidence to say that just because you can't see yourself in somebody that's in a position

of power now does not mean to say that you can't be that person and actually you can be the best version of yourself

and get on in life, you don't have to change who you are.

Have we got much flesh on the bones of how you would actually teach it?

Well, it's about having teachers in the classroom that can build that resilience and

understanding that, I think, far too often.

We've been pushed towards a rigorous academic route.

You know, we've heard Vishi Sunat talk about, you know, maths and everything else.

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