This is The Reason Interview with Nick Gillespie. My guest today is Andy Mills, the co-creator of

Reflector, a new documentary podcast whose early episodes delve into controversial treatments for

alcoholism and the free speech implications of the trial of rapper Young Thug, whose lyrics

are being used by prosecutors to build a RICO case against him.

Andy's a legend in podcasting circles.

He helped create the New York Times podcast The Daily, which is one of the most listened to shows

on the planet, and he produced the wildly popular and controversial The Witch Trials of

J.K. Rolling for the free press. We talk about why podcasting

is having such a moment, his tumultuous tenure at the New York Times, which ended with his resignation,

and whether there's a market for investigative journalism that isn't done in the service of

partisan politics.

Here is the reason interview with Andy Mills.

The most important ideas are those debated on college campuses.

Think about how many different fringe concepts initially spawned in the academy that are

now prevalent across society.

F.A. Hayek noticed this phenomenon.

The ideas developed in academia soon spread to the rest of society. F.A. Hayek noticed this phenomenon. The ideas developed in academia soon spread to the rest

of society. That's why Students for Liberty support students like me in spreading the ideas

of liberty on campuses. As a coordinator with SFL, I've hosted high-profile speakers to discuss

the pressing issues of the day, published magazines and articles to spread pro-liberty

ideas, and helped organize and attend conferences on campuses around the world. SFL connected me

with partner organizations, and thanks to SFL, I've been accepted to internships at the

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