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Andrew, welcome to The Unmistakable Creative. Thanks so much for taking the time to join us.

Thanks for having me. It's great to be here. Yeah, it is my pleasure to have you here. I have been really excited about getting the chance to talk to you. So I came across your book, The War on Normal

People, while I was in a Barnes & Noble. And I remember I caught it out of the corner of my eye and immediately I picked it up and took a picture of it and went home and ordered it on an Amazon only to learn that you were actually a 2020 presidential candidate. But before we get into all of that, I want to start by asking you, what social group were you a part of in high school and what impact has that ended up having on the choices that you've made throughout your life

and with your career?

I hung out with an eclectic mix of kids that were into alternative music.

So we would listen to The Cure and the Smiths and New Order groups like that.

And it was, I'm not sure how you would have

categorized us. And it wasn't really like a fixed group either. So there were a couple of goth kids

and then a couple of soccer playing guys who just like the music. And for me, I was really glad

to have the company because I was very nerdy Chinese kid growing up.

And I was one of the only Asian kids in my school.

And so having people that shared a connection around music was really positive for me.

As somebody was one of the only Asian kids in your school, what was the whole race relation experience like for you at that

time? I think literally about 95 or 6% of the kids in the school were white. And so when you're

in a group that's so predominantly white, race isn't really ever, ever discussed in certain ways.

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