Welcome to a debate edition of the Whatever Podcast coming to you live from Santa Barbara, California. I'm your host, Brian Atlas. A few

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Without further ado, I'm joined today by Andrew Wilson, host of the Crucible.

He is a blood sports debater and political commentator.

Also joining us today is Charlie.

She received a master's degree in fantasy literature from the University of Glasgow

and a BA in English from California State University, Sacramento.

She's a political social commentator and content creator.

The topic today is feminism. I want a good, clean debate, no interrupting. I need very good discipline

on this. I will allow for some slight interrupting, as is normal in conversation,

but excessive or repeated interrupting

will first result in a verbal warning, excuse me,

followed by a yellow card, which mutes you for one minute

or until your opponent yields their time.

If this continues, it'll be followed by a red card,

which mutes you for three minutes

until or until your opponent yields their time.

Hopefully that won't be necessary.

There are no opening statements straight to open Convo.

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