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Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

Andrew Weissmann on Trump, the law, and working with Robert Mueller

Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

WNYC Studios

History, Politics, Public, 2020, Journalism, News, Wnyc, News Commentary, Daily News, Brian, Lehrer, Radio, Daily, Election

4.4675 Ratings

🗓️ 23 March 2026

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump's relationship with the rule of law, and with various investigative bodies has always been tense, at best.

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from WNYC Studios. I'm Brian Lehrer. This is my daily politics podcast. It's Monday, March 23rd.

0:14.8

With the passing announced this weekend of former FBI director and Vietnam veteran, Robert Mueller, best known in his later years as leading the so-called Mueller investigation of the first Trump presidential campaign's involvement with Russia, also known as the Russia investigation,

0:31.6

we'll get some thoughts now from a lead prosecutor on Mueller's investigating team.

0:36.5

After that investigation, Andrew Weissman wrote the

0:39.1

best-selling book called Where Law Ends Inside the Mueller Investigation. In that book, Weissman was

0:45.6

fairly critical of Mueller, largely for being too cautious in that probe, leading to conclusions

0:50.9

that may have been too much of letting Trump off the hook.

0:55.1

Andrew Weissman has also been General Counsel for the FBI, under Mueller,

0:59.4

co-hosts the MS Now podcast called Main Justice,

1:03.4

and has a new book coming out in May called Liar's Kingdom,

1:07.4

How to Stop Trump Deceit and Save America.

1:10.7

Andrew, we appreciate that you're giving us

1:12.1

some time today. Welcome back to WNYC. Nice to be here, Brian. Before we get to the Mueller investigation

1:18.8

and his legacy around that, would you like to eulogize the man a little more broadly first?

1:24.4

You knew him for a long time and before he became a household name in relation

1:28.5

to Donald Trump. Sure. Well, I think people know that he devoted his life to public service.

1:36.3

As you noted, he was in their Marines and was a decorated Marine. He has somebody who volunteered to be in the military

1:45.6

after growing up in a very well-to-do background,

1:50.2

having gone to Princeton, and then chose to serve his country.

1:54.6

And he then chose to serve his country throughout his life,

1:59.3

dedicating his time to not being in private

2:01.7

practice, but to serving all of us from beginning to end. And one thing I think is worth

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