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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Andrew Sullivan on quitting blogging, fearing political correctness, and Donald Trump

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, News, Society & Culture, News Commentary, Philosophy

4.511.1K Ratings

🗓️ 24 May 2016

⏱️ 115 minutes

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Summary

Last year, Andrew Sullivan quit blogging — the medium he had done so much to create. And you know what? He was pretty damn happy about it. He was taking walks, meditating, exercising, reading, and generally living the good life. Of course, then Donald Trump just had to go and drag him back into the fray...In this extremely, extremely fun conversation, I talked with Andrew about:- His 10-day silent meditation retreat- His central role pushing gay marriage from a fringe idea to a constitutional right- What it was like being an HIV-positive writer during the height of the plague, and how the experience deepened his faith- Why he believes in God- Whether you can build a media business based off of advertising- How his thinking on Obama has changed since 2008- What he thinks is so unusually dangerous about Donald Trump- Why a politics based on how people feel scares himAnd much more. This is one of the most fun conversations I've had for this show. I hope you'll enjoy it as much as I did.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:55.9

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1:25.9

Really one of the godfathers of blogging.

1:28.9

Among many, many, many other things Tyler Cohen, the economist and writer, is one of our

1:34.6

most influential living public intellectuals.

1:36.9

He was the intellectual driver of the game marriage movement.

1:41.4

He was the editor of the New York Public.

1:45.9

He was one of the first major writers who is out with HIV in the 90s.

1:52.0

He's just had an extraordinary career.

1:55.0

Certainly affected my career quite a lot.

1:57.0

I got into blogging after Andrew Sullivan and I would also say Josh Marshall really drove

2:02.0

that platform forward quite a bit.

2:05.2

I learned a tremendous amount from him over the years.

2:08.1

Also got into a large number of fights with him over the years, which has always been fun.

2:11.9

He recently closed up his blog, The Daily Dish.

2:15.2

I think that was about a year ago now.

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