Andrew Sheets: The Great Debate on Rates
Thoughts on the Market
Morgan Stanley
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🗓️ 5 March 2021
⏱️ 3 minutes
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Summary
Do higher interest rates invariably lead to weaker equities and credit markets? The answer is a bit more complicated after factoring in economic optimism.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Thoughts in the Market. |
| 0:03.8 | I'm Andrew Sheetz, Chief Cross-Asset Stragist for Morgan Stanley. |
| 0:07.1 | Along with my colleagues bringing you a variety of perspectives, I'll be talking about trends |
| 0:10.8 | across the global investment landscape and how we put those ideas together. |
| 0:14.5 | It's Friday, March 5th at 2pm in London. |
| 0:19.2 | Interest rates are moving higher, and a question that keeps coming up is at what level will |
| 0:22.6 | this be a problem for markets? |
| 0:24.5 | One could obviously say now, as this week saw a big rise in yields in some major market |
| 0:28.9 | volatility, but I think this question is more complicated, about shades of gray rather |
| 0:33.7 | than black and white. |
| 0:34.8 | In lots of articles and conversations, the idea that higher interest rates lead to weaker |
| 0:39.2 | markets is presented as something that's relatively obvious, but it's not. |
| 0:43.5 | For most of the last 30 years, global stock and credit markets have done better when |
| 0:47.7 | yields are rising and worse when they're falling. |
| 0:50.6 | To understand why, let's think about how assets are often valued. |
| 0:53.9 | When you value something that produces income over time, say earnings or dividends or |
| 0:58.2 | rents and so forth, two variables are usually paramount. |
| 1:01.8 | One is the discount rate, the hurdle rate that people demand for accepting the risk of |
| 1:05.7 | this investment relative to doing something else. |
| 1:08.3 | As bond yields rise, this discount rate can rise too. |
| 1:11.7 | If I can earn a higher return in a safe government bond, other things need to offer higher returns |
| 1:16.8 | and probably lower prices in order to compete. |
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