Hey, everybody, welcome to the Meer Christians podcast. I'm Jordan Rayner. How does the Gospel

influence the work of mere Christians?

Those of us who aren't pastors but who work as graphic designers and pilots and bank tellers?

That's the question we explore every week and today I'm posing it to my new friend

Andrew Nimmer described by the New York Times as quote a masterly tapper. Andrew has performed alongside musicians like

Harry Connick Jr. and Les Paul and was a member of the original company of Stomp.

His work has been recognized with the Ted Fellowship

as well as grants from the National Endowment for the Arts and Google. He's world

class at what he does and just an extraordinary human being.

Andrew and I recently sat down to talk about how we can hear the applause for our work

before we go on the metaphorical or in Andrew's case

literal stage of our work how Andrew came to realize that God doesn't need us, but wants us, and why we should all view failure

as a gift, a gracious gift from God.

Andrew just breezed past that last one toward the end of the episode.

I wish we had 10 more minutes to unpack it. But even without that, this is a terrific episode.

I'm confident you're going to love.

Please enjoy this conversation with Andrew Nimmer.

Andrew, first tap dancer ever on the Mir Christians podcast. Welcome.

Amazing, thanks for having me.

First, hopefully not the last.

We'll see.

We'll see how this shape stuff. So I've never talked about this publicly, probably for good reason, but I've got huge personal respect for your craft because when I was a junior in high school I had this very tap dance heavy role in the

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