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The Two Matts

Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor: The photo that says it all

The Two Matts

The New World

Politics, Government, News, News Commentary

4.2577 Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2026

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

The Matts sweep up an extraordinary 24 hours in British history. But first, they marvel at the power of a single photographic frame - currently splashed on every newspaper front page in the country. Is this the most extraordinary back seat photo since Thatcher? Then they discuss if the media has an innate deference to the Royal Family and whether Jonathan Dimbleby in particular needs to rethink his designation as an actual journalist. It’s a special podcast extra as events unfold… enjoy!


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Transcript

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0:00.0

I think that photograph like Thatcher in the back of the car being driven out of Downing Street,

0:08.0

that will live for generations to come, we'll still be looking at that photo.

0:16.0

It's going to be terrible for the monarchy.

0:18.0

People will be looking at the institution, the family,

0:21.0

and thinking there's an area of tawdiness and untrustworthiness.

0:26.5

It would be beyond possibility, I think, that there isn't a cache of emails and messages

0:33.5

that broaden the scope of this investigation much wider and start to wrap in the entire

0:42.4

royal family operation.

0:47.2

Hello and happy Friday.

0:49.5

Happy Friday, one and all.

0:51.8

Matt, we thought we should do another podcast on the, after the extraordinary events of

0:58.3

yesterday, because there's quite a lot to digest and wrap up.

1:02.7

But should we start with that photograph?

1:07.0

Yes, absolutely.

1:09.3

You, the photograph of Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, aka the former Prince Andrew,

1:15.2

leaving custody in the back of a car with sort of Illuminati-style red eyes. And you said, Matt,

1:22.4

in the group chat, that it was the best back seat picture since Thatcher left office.

1:30.9

And I think you're a spot on.

1:32.2

There's some images, a bit like the famous Trump fist in the air

1:37.5

after the assassination attempt at Butler 24, just capture a moment, don't they?

1:42.2

And this was this, this was the image that we will remember

1:45.7

for years to come, I think. Taken by a photographer from Reuters, I think, called Phil Novel.

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