You're listening to The Great Simplification with Nate Higgins.

That's me.

On this show, we try to explore and simplify what's happening with energy, the economy, the environment, in our society.

Together with scientists, experts, and leaders, this show is about understanding the bird's-eye view of how everything fits together, where we go from here and what we can do about it as a society and as individuals.

I have often said that in a materially constrained future, a great simplification,

we are going to have a simpler society.

And with that, a return to living in a more integrated way with the natural flows of the land.

With me today is Oregon State professor Andrew Millison, who is an expert and an educator in the field of permaculture.

Permaculture is a design system which focuses on doing just that, working with the land instead of against it.

Andrew founded the Permaculture design education program at Oregon State

University, where he is the education director and senior instructor with over 25 years

of experience.

Andrew also has a very popular YouTube channel, travels the world documenting epic permaculture projects in places such as India, Egypt,

Mexico, Cuba and throughout the United States, which he shares on his YouTube channel.

In a world that often feels out of our control, permaculture design offers a way where we can work with the land and see improvements

right before our eyes in food, water, social capital.

Um, this podcast is mostly so far talking about the constraints that are leading us in

the destination of a great simplification.

But increasingly, I want to have guests on, like Andrew, to talk about responses,

especially things you can start doing right now in your own community,

wherever you live.

Please welcome Andrew Millison.

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