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Andrew McAfee, Megan McArdle, and Lee Ohanian on the Future of Work

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🗓️ 2 June 2014

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Andrew McAfee, Megan McArdle, and Lee Ohanian talk with EconTalk host Russ Roberts on the future of work. Recorded before a live audience at the 33rd Santa Barbara Economic Summit, the conversation begins with each participant making a brief set of remarks on the topic. Topics discussed include the traits that might be rewards in a world of smart machines, reforming the educational system to prepare people for the changing economy, reforming immigration, and policies that might help the labor market work more effectively.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Econ Talk, part of the Library of Economics and Liberty. I'm your host, Russ Roberts,

0:07.8

of Stanford University's Hoover Institution. Our website is econtalk.org, or you can subscribe,

0:14.4

comment on this podcast, and find links and other information related to today's conversation.

0:19.6

We'll also find our archives where you can listen to every episode we've ever done going

0:23.3

back to 2006. Our email address is mailadycontalk.org. We'd love to hear from you.

0:32.3

Today is May 8, 2014, and we are recording this episode of econtalk before a live audience

0:39.2

as part of the 33rd annual Santa Barbara County Economic Summit. Our topic for today is the future of work.

0:47.4

As you know, the economy has been sluggish over the last five years relative to previous

0:52.3

recoveries. The job market in particular has been very disappointing. New job creation has been

0:58.8

slow, and most of the reductions in unemployment have come from workers giving up. Some economists worry

1:05.4

that this is not a problem of the recovery, but a longer-term problem that will not go away even

1:10.8

if overall economic growth returns to healthy levels. This all takes place against a backdrop of

1:16.8

other concerns about the power of technology to eliminate some kinds of jobs, many many kinds of

1:22.7

jobs may be of my job in yours. The long-term decline of manufacturing employment in the United States

1:30.6

and growing inequality in compensation, and given that depressing introduction, a part of me

1:36.2

wants to go back to bed, curl up with a warm cup of cocoa, or maybe a shot of scotch.

1:45.2

But instead, we're going to hear from three outstanding guests who will perhaps lift our spirits a bit,

1:52.3

and if not at least make us a little bit smarter. Andrew McAfee studies how information technology

2:00.6

affects businesses and businesses a whole. He is a principal research scientist at the Center

2:05.2

for Digital Business at MIT Sloan School of Management. With Eric Benjolson, he's the author of

2:11.2

the second machine age, work, progress, and prosperity in a time of brilliant technologies.

2:18.1

Megan McCartle is a columnist at Bloomberg View and has been a correspondent for the Atlantic,

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