All right? I am here in the Young Hertics Studio, aka my living room, and who should walk in?

Actually, no seriously, who should walk? Who are you? And how did you get here?

We've seen this man before.

No, this is Andrew Clavin, my father, no relation, and you're in town,

because we're doing a book event.

We are, we are at the at the landmark bookstore in Franklin.

Yes indeed.

Striding as you said into publication shoulder to shoulder.

Amazingly, just obviously some planned and elsewhere because we actually we make all these

jokes but we actually literally did not plan this and your book was I think two

months apart from mine it's so weird it's so mean it really because we didn't

plan it neither of our publishers had this in mind so either

It's a big coincidence or that something has been kind of like laid out for us.

But I actually, last night, I guess, finished your book.

Which I had not previously read.

I have it here, a woman underground.

It's the latest, the fourth in the camera

yes and I am sorry to report that I loved this this book I really really

enjoyed it I've liked all the camera winter novels each one is distinct I think what's

amazing I actually don't know how you do this it this is a character that is one of those recognizable guys you like instantly know and love and every book is kind of another like skittle in the bag like they have a flavor to them and yet he

genuinely grows and develops and changes and the plot it sort of emerges over the

course of the of the series so that's the last

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