This is Undaunted Life, a man's podcast.

I'm your host Kyle Thompson.

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Hi guys.

Today we've got a very special guest on the podcast.

His name is Andrew Claven.

He is an international best selling fiction and nonfiction author, the two time Edgar award

winner.

That's an award that's given out by the mystery writers of America.

And he's also the host of the Andrew Claven show on the daily wire.

So this is a very, very interesting guy and we got into a lot of this in the show, but

he grew up as a secular Jew in New York City, the very intellectual environment, all these

types of things.

But then he became a Christian at the age of 49.

Okay.

So he talks about that a lot in his memoir, which we talk about in the show, but we're

here to talk about a lot of his new book, right?

And his new book is called the truth and beauty, how the lives and works of England's

greatest poets point the way to a deeper understanding of the words of Jesus.

And so I remember when this was pitched to me, I was super excited to talk to Andrew

Claven just because a lot of his conservative commentary.

But I was like, okay, a book about Jesus and the Gospels and English poets and like,

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