Andrew Klavan: Finding God in the Literature of Darkness
Socrates in the City
Socrates in the City
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🗓️ 23 May 2025
⏱️ 66 minutes
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Summary
What do Woody Allen, Dostoevsky, and Cain and Able have in common? What are the underlying psychological themes and influences in modern horror? Andrew Klavan, an award-winning writer, screenwriter, and media commentator joins Socrates in the City host Eric Metaxas to discuss his new book, The Kingdom of Cain. Klavan explores how artists’ imaginative engagement with the darkness can point the way to living beautifully in the midst of a tragic world. Using the frame of three historic murders, he examines how the transformation that occurs in art grants us a vision for how transformation can take root in our lives.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Socrates in the studio, which falls under the Aegis and the rubric of Socrates in the city. |
| 0:10.6 | Socrates in the city today is taking place in the city of New York City. |
| 0:16.9 | And I have the great fun and privilege of having as my guest, |
| 0:23.6 | someone I actually like, although I don't want him to know it, |
| 0:26.2 | but here he is, Andrew Claven. |
| 0:28.4 | Andrew, always fun, really fun to talk to you. |
| 0:31.5 | Thanks for being our guest today. |
| 0:32.6 | It's a pleasure. It really is. |
| 0:34.0 | Well, if you didn't write so many books, I wouldn't get this opportunity. So thank you. |
| 0:39.7 | Your books are usually, I would say, really extraordinary and also, or you could say, odd, right? |
| 0:49.7 | In other words, just as much, this book, I mean, your previous book, The Truth and Beauty, was so extraordinary |
| 0:55.6 | and so odd in a good way that we did two interviews about it. Yes, that's right. I forgot about that. |
| 1:01.0 | And it turns out that was not a mistake. We could easily do a third or a fourth. I mean, it really is such a |
| 1:07.5 | rich subject. I didn't think you'd pop out another similar book so soon. |
| 1:14.4 | It's like Irish twins or something. |
| 1:17.2 | And the new book, of which I have an advanced reading copy |
| 1:21.5 | because I'm an advanced reader, |
| 1:24.1 | is titled The Kingdom of Cain. |
| 1:26.9 | I know you know this. I'm just saying this for the audience. Okay, I understood. It's titled, the Kingdom of Cain. I know you know this. |
| 1:27.9 | I'm just saying this for the audience. |
| 1:28.9 | Okay. |
| 1:29.4 | It's titled, the Kingdom of Cain, |
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