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Getting, how did the conversations go that landed you in Philadelphia?

We're really just desire to work with Vic again, you know, kind of after our time in 2021.

So really just, you know, it was him talking to Howie and Nick and the vision, shared vision,

of what defense looked like, what organization looked like and everything else.

Yeah, I'm the best thing that I made.

What is it by your coaching style that really meshes with his concepts and philosophies?

I think we see the game in a similar light, you know, being complex to the offense

but being simple for us.

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