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Please enjoy this podcast now. It's with my old friend Andrew Bajalski, who is the creator,

the writer and director of several

independent movies. And it's a fun conversation we had that is parts catching up and part

an exploration of what makes the independent creator tick. Hope you enjoy it.

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Ben Blacker talking riding with writers.

Riders talking writing can get pretty exciting.

The talk can be to lightning.

It's very, very frightening.

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