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Episode 23, Andrea Giesbrecht, Part 2.

In the last episode, we heard that Andrea had opted for a judge-only trial. Testimony and forensic analysis found that Andrea's babies were all structurally normal, with no genetic abnormalities,

and had been born at a round full term. The remains of the infants were in such a state that the

medical examiner wasn't able to find a

cause of death for them, or evidence to ascertain whether they'd even lived outside the womb.

We also heard testimony that it was medically impossible for a mother to give birth to six

stillborn children, and there was no evidence that Andrea had self-induced late-term pregnancy terminations

because doing so would cause major harm to Andrea herself,

which would require urgent medical attention.

No such care was on record.

It was time for some more medical testimony.

Forensic pathologist Dr. Raymond Rivera testified that he conducted the autopsies on the babies

which determined gender where possible and how old they were.

He confirmed the remains were so decomposed that he wasn't able to determine how any of them died

or whether they'd been born alive or stillborn.

He also confirmed previous testimony that there were no abnormalities or evidence of prior injuries,

but also said there was, quote,

no evidence that the infants had any sort of life after birth.

For the remains that were so badly decomposed that just the skeleton was left,

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